Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
Dave_Retired., Sat Dec 02 2006, 06:30am

EDIT: January 2008 Please Note, this thread is now out of date and remains for reference only.

OK things have moved on since we first started this thread off so if you want the latest way to add functionality then go to page 13 of this thread for an up to date simple solution to adding iPod capability to your C4 and retaining the steering wheel functions

Or Read about this new Citroën solution - Click Here -

The rest of the topic has been left for reference for those seeking alternatives


The quote above was posted by wozza in another thread - Click Here - and I thought it worthwhile it having it's own!

I paid for a CD Multichanger as it was already fitted when I bought my C4 from dealer stock. However whilst it's handy in the armrest it is an expense you don't need if you have an iPod (I have a Nano now which I was given as a present last Xmas!)

The cable sounds a good idea but it was recently announced that the Government is now going to allow the short range iPod radio link plug in. They aren't available in the UK yet but can be bought on the net.

They will no doubt appear in the iPod store online soon along with all the other goodies so before you buy a CD Multichanger check out the iPod option


Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
wozza, Sat Dec 02 2006, 08:29am

the one thing you have to remember with the radio transmitters is that you will lose audio quality and things can interfere with them. Where as the cable will give you perfect audio quality as it plugs into the headphone jack.

The cable is also cheaper. Only around £10 - £15 i think. And i saw the radio transmitters for the ipod for sale yesterday in the trafford centre at the apple store and also in currys etc.

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
Dave_Retired., Sat Dec 02 2006, 09:26am

You can get a kit that fits into the CD Changer socket on the back of the Radio Head as well and converts your iPod to a virtual CD changer for most older Citroens

iPod Car Kit Direct sell 2 types - a Dension one @ £149.97 from Ipod Car Kit Direct

OK it's not cheap but the operation is simple: ice>Link Plus translates CD changer messages to iPod controls and switches the iPod automatically on and off as you select/deselect the CD changer source.

The iPod is controlled from the head unit‘s CD changer keys and steering wheel controls (where available) and your iPod is charged while connected.

However because of software issues this kit doesn't work on the C4 so you need a different kit here

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
wozza, Sat Dec 02 2006, 11:13am

I was talking about the proper apple one think its called the iTrip.

FM modulators are typically a bad thing though in cars. They give naff quality and other things can interfere with them.

Where as the actual cable you can get from the dealer will plug into the back of your head unit in the AUX port same as where the cd changer goes basically and then you can just plug it into your mp3 player. It can be used with any MP3 player as well. On the other C4 forum couple guys have done it and made little harnesses for them in the drawer at the side next to the steering wheel.

you have to go to a Peugeot dealer for the cable though as i do not think Citroen dealers stock them they might have started to now though.

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
Dave_Retired., Sat Dec 02 2006, 01:05pm

So the cable at £21.51 I assume simply plugs into the headphone socket on an iPod or other MP3 player and you still need a power supply from somewhere?

Or does it do the same thing as the 'Kit' that I posted about above then and power it and add the functions to the steering column controls?

The 'Kit' sounds good but very expensive so I will have a look at the Peugot cable option next week and report back in detail

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
wozza, Sat Dec 02 2006, 01:22pm

theres no power option but when the battery lasts for over 20 hours is it really needed? And no steering wheel controls either but are you sure the other ones allow steering controls to work on the C4 as a lot of companies seem to be having problems getting the c4 steering controls to work. Im still in touch with alpine who have been creating a steering interface for my headunit for the last 2 years its still not out.

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
Dave_Retired., Mon Dec 04 2006, 04:14am

Edited: 7th July 2007

Here is a list of Alternative Options we have researched for playing an iPod or MP3 player in your Citroen C4

Using a replacement Head Unit you can improve on the quality of the sound overall. However remember to keep the factory fit unit in case you sell the car in the future. That way you can roll-back and keep your new system to put in your new car. It's amazing how many people just don't bother

I've created a separate article on the various options available here - Click Here -

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
wozza, Tue Dec 05 2006, 03:37pm

[shadowbox=http://c4owners.org/images/c4/large/wozza_dash.jpg|Alpine Radio||right][/shadowbox]
Just seen the bit where citroen does not recommend it. Its no different to them enabling the aux port for the Cd changer just techs at citroen dont always know everything. i know a couple guys had to tell them when they went to get it done exactly what they needed to do with the computer to turn it on so keep that in mind.

And if i can remove the headunit completely and its all still working i cant see it causing a problem.

If you do not have parking sensors or the cd changer and looking at these more expensive kits also consider an upgrade to the headunit its self. What i did. benefits of doing this is much better sound quality and a headunit that can use all the functions of the ipod while you stick it in the glovebox. Can be picked up for around £170 as well for a fairly decent unit there are cheaper though.

Also fairly easy to pick up some more OEM style headunits with better sq and ipod support but well im a big fan of Alpine units hence me picking that one.

Click the image to see it full size

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
wozza, Tue Dec 19 2006, 02:27am

Pulled this from the other forum one of the Citroen techs KFK posted it to help people.



Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
, Tue Jan 02 2007, 03:10am

Can anyone help me at all? I have purchased the lead and, because of my poor ability at dealing with all things technical, have paid my dealer to fit this and enable the aux ports. The amusing part - they dont know how to enable the aux port - does anyone know how they can do this!!!??

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
, Tue Jan 02 2007, 06:13am

Belkin schmelkin is what I say.

As wozza posted, if your dealer is unsure all they need to do is enable the aux port on your unit via their computer, and bear this in mind:-



Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
, Tue Jan 02 2007, 07:59am

i got my car in June last year (2006). I've been to the dealership today and they have got to the bottom of the problem. The computer needed updating to allow them to enable the port to classic mode - if anyone else gets this done it might be worth mentioning that to the dealers - as most of them dont know about it for some reason.

anyway, this website is a great idea by the way - really good community resource.

cheers,

rich

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
Dave_Retired., Tue Jan 02 2007, 08:14am



Thanks for the clarification Rich

I've updated the article on iPod/MP3 use - Click Here - to reflect this and would be grateful for any feedback you have once you have had a chance to try it out so others can benefit

I'm trying to rate the alternatives to the onboard CD Multichanger on a scale of 1-5 stars based on price/useability/soud quality

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
, Mon Jan 08 2007, 02:42pm

I had my car to the dealers today [Wingrove at Silverlink] to sort out a service indictor problem so while it was there I got them to enable the aux. socket to work so I can plug my MP3 player into it which they did without question so they obviously know how to do it, so full marks to them for that.
I got a cable, the 9706AG, from a Peugeot dealer although I have found out that Citroen dealers now stock them with the same part number and price, for anyone who does'nt want to venture into a Peugeot dealer.The cable is made in Italy!
Once I fit the wires into the plug and attach it to CD player and MP3 player I will let you know what it sounds like.

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
, Tue Jan 09 2007, 02:54pm

Got my MP3 player connected to the Cd player today and sounds really good.

Thought it was going to be complicated at first as I had to fit the three wires into a plug and then fit that into another plug but if I can do it anybody can. I connected the wires the way it said on the instructions that came with the lead which is slightly different to the way mentioned on other posts

4 - RED 10 - WHITE 11 - BLACK

and this plugs into the AUX 1 socket which was enabled by the dealer.

If you are using AUX 2 it would be 7 - RED 1 - WHITE 2 - BLACK

Once plugged into the CD player its easy to feed the wire through to the drivers side as there is a big gap above the air duct next to your left leg. You get about 10ft of wire so I bundled some of it up and placed it on the ledge under the steering wheel where its out of sight and cannot fall anywhere and brought the end of it out of a gap near the door and placed the MP3 player in the cubby hole that is near your right knee.

The disadvantages are that you cannot change tracks etc. as its out of sight so I might find somewhere more suitable to put it and I have to turn the volume up on CD player quite a lot to listen to it at same level I would listen to a CD and then remember to turn it down again before radio or CD comes on.

The sound quality is really good though so I'm pleased I've done it. My MP3 player is just one of those cheap lipstick/cigar shaped ones so you might get even better results from a more upmarket model.



Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
Bill, Tue Jan 09 2007, 03:34pm

So far that's three ways to wire it up:-

11- Black 10- Red 4- White./

4- RED 10- WHITE 11- BLACK./

7- RED 1- WHITE 2- BLACK/

Depends on which aux is activated????

Sorry getting confused


Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
, Tue Jan 09 2007, 05:36pm

The leaflet that came with the lead says:

4 - RED 10 - WHITE 11 - BLACK
This is the way I wired it up and the dealer only enabled AUX 1 as I think AUX 2 is used for something else like the JBL option or Bluetooth system.

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
, Thu Jan 11 2007, 05:25am

I've managed to get my dealer to fit the required cable, enable the AUX etc so i can play my MP3 player through the stereo, as a gesture of goodwill as i had a few teething problems. Got it booked in for next Saturday.

Anything else i should try and get out of them while i'm at it? Cradle for MP3 player? Any ideas?

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
, Fri Jan 12 2007, 10:05am

I don't think Citroen dealers do anything else MP3 player related and you will hard pushed to get a cradle anywhere unless you have an i-pod or i-pod shaped player.

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
, Mon Jan 15 2007, 10:28am

Hello All. 1st post here.

I am currently trying to persuade my local Citroen dealer to activate the auxiliary audio option (info from this great forum given!) but in the meantime have a further question:

Although the steering wheel controls will not control the iPod/MP3 player will I still be able to change the general volume and mute as before?

I am hoping so as then I can just set the MP3 player to random and control the car volume at my fingertips. From another forum I saw something about line out settings on actual MP3 player to counteract volume disparity. Anyone got more info on this?

Much obliged in advance.


Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
wozza, Mon Jan 15 2007, 10:33am

Can still control the volume as you did before. And depends on the MP3 player some can have line out some cant. Its no absolutely needed though.

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
, Wed Jan 17 2007, 08:20am

Have someone tried the new connects2 interface, the CTACTIPOD006 - Click Here -



Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
Dave_Retired., Wed Jan 17 2007, 08:56am



I haven't as there's not enough info out about it yet

From what I can see it looks like it utilises an auxiliary output as it mentions 'PSA RD4 N2 CAN BUS' and the image appears to confirm that with what looks like an auxiliary output plug going to a 'box' with a connecting lead to an iPod

If that's the case it will require the auxiliary output on the Radio Head Unit to be enabled by a dealer

EDIT:

Just spoke to the main suppliers who say it's not actually released in the UK yet and still undergoing in car testing for software updates etc.

It's not expected to be available for 4-6 weeks

I tried a few official distributors as well who couldn't supply any info yet so any that are available may not therefore be compatible with UK spec cars so I would wait before considering buying one


Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
, Tue Jan 23 2007, 06:03am


Traffic announcements still work when listening to MP3 player, sound from MP3 player mutes [not pauses] then unmutes.

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
, Tue Jan 23 2007, 10:32am

c4kev

how much was the cable you bought from the pug dealer?

I'm in county durham, wheres your dealer at?

thanks

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
Dave_Retired., Tue Jan 23 2007, 11:31am



I checked with Richard Hardie (Branches across the North East) the 9706AG cable had to be ordered in at a cost of £18.31 + VAT so £21.51

Apparently they are now available via Citroen Dealers on the same part number

Try: Croxdale Citroen Centre, Croxdale, Durham, County Durham DH6 5HS Tel: 01388 814671

Or

Evans Halshaw Citroen, Chesnut St, Darlington, County Durham DL1 1QL Tel: 01325 483737

Which are both resonably close to you fredsdead


Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
, Tue Jan 23 2007, 06:18pm


I got mine from Evans Halshaw pug dealer at Chesnut Street, Darlington which is opposite Citroen dealer.

Neither had it in stock when I wanted one so as I went to pug dealer last I just ordered it from there, took about 4 days and cost £22.23 including VAT.

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
, Tue Jan 30 2007, 08:29am

Can I just ask, does the cable terminate in a 3.5mm jack, or a 'proper' ipod connection?

I've just got myself a 1.6 HDi VTR+ (5 door) and MP3 support is the only thing missing from it!
I'd like to be able to control an ipod via the multichanger interface, but I'm not sure if this cable does the job.

Also, does anyone know who makes the C4 radio? If it's Blaupunkt (as I read somewhere else) then a full ipod kit is available for about 60 quid.

Cheers!

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
BigJohnD, Tue Jan 30 2007, 08:48am


Yes it's a Blaupunkt alright. An RD4 I think. It comes in several flavours (e.g one which also plays MP3s), and can also be found in a Peugeot 307 (which is no surprise).

I don't know about the iPod kit as I'm about to swap the Blau for a DAB Sony (on which I'll report later, hopefully after the weekend if I can get the aerial parts).

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
, Tue Jan 30 2007, 10:30am

The cable terminates with a 3.5mm jack plug so will fit virtually any MP3 player headphone output.

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
Dave_Retired., Thu Feb 01 2007, 08:46am



[shadowbox=http://c4owners.org/images/c4/ice/9706_AG.jpg|iPod Instructions||left][/shadowbox]
OK have the instruction leaflet!

Using Auxiliary 2 its:

7- RED 1- WHITE 2- BLACK

Using Auxiliary 1 its:

4- RED 10- WHITE 11- BLACK

There is a confirmed 3rd option if either of the above don't work then Citroen Service Support (and the manual) say wire it as: 11-Black 10- Red 4-White - confused - you should

You can't use a Mobile Phone on AUX1 but can on AUX 2 - my CD player is in Slot 1 already which I think is standard.

Will confirm though when I try and fit it!

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
, Sat Feb 03 2007, 06:58am

Just had the adaptor fitted by the dealership. Sound is great but need to have the volume at 25 to hear it properly. Is this the same for anyone else? I've just plugged the one lead into the black output with the other end into the headphone socket on the MP3 player. Is this the same for everyone? Thanks.


Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
Dave_Retired., Sat Feb 03 2007, 07:22am


Fitted mine this morning to Aux 2 but I can't select to output from Radio Source Button?

Can't put it in Aux 1 as the CD player is there

How are you selecting yours?

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
Bill, Sat Feb 03 2007, 07:50am

Is that the standard CD player Dave or the Multichanger CD player? I only have the standard player and wondered if that also uses Aux 1??

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
Dave_Retired., Sat Feb 03 2007, 08:36am


Multichanger Bill

The inbuilt one shouldn't need any additional cabling?

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
BigJohnD, Sat Feb 03 2007, 11:00am

My son uses an iTrip on 88.1FM when in my car.

It seems OK to me, and darn sight better than his tiny earphones.

The iTrip range is only a few metres, and can occasionally be picked up by cars close by at the lights or in a car park. It uses little power, though when in the car, the iPod is powered off the ciggy lighter.

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
Dave_Retired., Sat Feb 03 2007, 12:03pm



Tried the Belkin iTrip and it was a waste of time in mine - sound quality was poor and full of interference

It's gone now via ebay!

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
, Sat Feb 03 2007, 12:14pm



Kev, just wanted to check. I've put the box with the red white and black outputs in the glove box. All i have is one lead coming from the black straight into my MP3 player. I have the volume up at 25 however. Is this the way you have yours done?

Thanks.


Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
Dave_Retired., Sun Feb 04 2007, 03:05am


To save any more confusion I have copied the instructions and colour coded them in photoshop and there is a printable copy here - Click Here -

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
, Sun Feb 04 2007, 03:19am



If you can chang3 your signal output to 'Line Out' then you should be able to turn the MP3 player down quite substantially.


Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
Dave_Retired., Thu Feb 08 2007, 12:26pm


There is a confirmed 3rd option if either of the above don't work then Citroen say wire it as: 11-Black 10- Red 4-White - not as per the instructions they supply 8-| confused - you should be

But I did see it in Black and White in the Dealer Service guide.

Well I tried to get Auxiliary 2 output enabled on my car Radio RD4 unit today but couldn't.

Why? because the Dealers software had a fault!

Apparently there are 2 Citroen diagnostic systems available to Dealers, Proxia and Lexia (not sure on the correct spelling though) and they can choose to use either (some big dealers have both)

The problem I had is that the Dealer I used had a Lexia and the latest update CD he had was version 37. It appears that when that was released the bit of code to turn on Aux 2 by switching to Classic mode was missed off the disk and won't be added back until version 38 and the disks are usually issued 3 monthly.

They only found out by phoning Citroen after an hour of frustration.

So I have to go to another dealer or wait and unknown length of time until they get the next update disk

I opted to go elsewhere and have it done tomorrow.

Another one to file in the bank of useless knowledge for the future

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
, Thu Feb 08 2007, 01:24pm

As a matter of interest what do dealers charge for enabling the spare output?

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
Dave_Retired., Thu Feb 08 2007, 01:36pm


Depends if there doing something else under waranty - if not you can expect to pay around £25 or so

If you use the same ones for servicing etc. they might just do it free

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
wozza, Thu Feb 08 2007, 01:52pm

In my post when i copied one of the tech guys about wiring it up I put it up as wiring it the way you saw it at the dealer. Back on page 2 I think.

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
Dave_Retired., Fri Feb 09 2007, 10:31am

OK Cable now fitted - Auxilliary Enabled and working

The sockets are actually input/output socket on the rear of the radio head unit and you can use either (unless your car is fully loaded with Manufacturer CD Multi-changer and in car Telephone Kit) leaving no empty access socket on the rear of the radio

The Auxilliary function is within the Radio unit and simply enables differing socket pins

As long as 1 of the ports are free and there is no other Auxiliary equipment then the Dealer will probably enable Auxiliary 1



The lead comes as a 'Kit' so you can choose how to wire it dependant on which Aux port you had enabled but doesn't take long to assemble if you look at the image below which I colour coded to make it easier (the one supplied is black and white) If the lead doesn't work make sure the connector is wired as follows:



Using Auxiliary 2 its: 7-RED 1- WHITE 2 BLACK

Using Auxiliary 1 its: 4-RED 10-WHITE 11-BLACK

There is a confirmed 3rd option if either of the above don't work then Citroen Service Support (and the manual) say wire it as: 11-Black 10- Red 4-White - confused - you should be!

You can't use a Mobile Phone on AUX 1 but can on AUX 2 - my Factory Fit CD Multi-changers player is Slot 1 already (which I think is the standard outlet for that as if you have Factory Fit Rear Parking Sensors it mutes the Radio/CD if your in reverse when the proximity 'Beep' kicks in)

It takes around 15 minutes to fit the cable (unless the Dealer does it for you)

The radio output cable from the Aux port is 1 metre long and terminates in a 3.5mm FEMALE audio plug. The 2nd cable is a male to male 2.25 metre long extension so you can basically put your iPod/MP3 player anywhere within reach. The instructions show it as a glove box fitting but you don't need to put it there if you don't want to. Just find a convenient compartment near at hand (you'll have more if you have the centre armrest fitted) or you might want to get a 'cradle' that fits your particular model and add a charging lead.

When connected and you use the 'Source Button' on the Radio you will find it now has another option:



The Sound quality is good as it's a direct feed into the Radio, You can still control the volume from the steering hub controls, you can mute the sound (but it doesn't pause the player like it does with the CD) Reverse Parking Sensors if fitted will still work and mute the sound when the proximity detector activates and Traffic Announcements will also work (if turned on on the radio)

Downsides: no power supply for your iPod /MP3 so a separate in car charger may be required plus you need to have an iPod on a high volume level (don't know about any other makes) which uses the battery faster. You may be able to adjust the output from Headphone to Lineout to offset that but that depends on individual players

You cannot adjust the Bass/Treble settings for the output either like you can for the Radio/Cd Multi-changer but with good quality recordings it doesn't really matter anyway. Plus iPod and some other MP3 players often come with integral Bass/Treble Controls and often 'Equaliser' settings to set the mode to 'Rock' (mine) Pop, Classic, Voice, Small Speakers, Concert Hall etc. etc. which overcomes some of those issues anyway.

Hopefully this finally clarifies how it works and the pros and cons

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
, Fri Feb 09 2007, 10:55am

I made a little holder to fit in the slide out drawer by the steering wheel:

I originally made it out of Packing Foam, but pushing it is and pulling it out compressed the foam too much and it wouldnt hole in the end.

So I made a 2nd one out of resin:

I went to Halfords and bought some Davids Fastglas resin and hardener for £5, then to the market and bought some thin black felt for 75p.

I removed the tray and lined it with tin foil, and the same with the MP3 player. The tin foil also has to be greased, i used vaseline.

I then set the MP3 player in the drawer, supporting it at the correct angles, both backwards and towards the driver.

I then mixed the resin as per the instructions and poured slowly into the lined tray, allowing it to flow around the player.

Once dry, after about two hours, the player was pulled out and all the foil was removed.

The resin block was then sanded smooth and cut to shape.

It was then covered using the felt and some spray adhesive that was knocking around.

Total cost, £5.75

I think I'd have actually liked it a little more upright, but I think I should be able to alter this if I want to at a later date.

Other then that, its great. It holds the player really well, doesnt move at all and it fits really snug in the drawer.

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
Dave_Retired., Fri Feb 09 2007, 01:07pm

Nice idea!

Thanks for that

[shadowbox=http://c4owners.org/images/c4/ice/ipodcup.jpg|C4 iPod position ||left][/shadowbox] Mine lays in the cup holder under the handbrake - the cable is so long I can simply pick it up to use if required

I ran the cable under the side of the 'Tunnel' in the foot-well back to the centre armrest so it's out of site anyway

It would probably be covered by the law against using mobiles on the move but once it's playing why would you need to touch it?

Plus it's near the power outlet to add a charger lead

And it doesn't stay in the car so hiding it in the glovebox doesn't matter

But hadn't thought about making a holder

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
Bill, Fri Feb 09 2007, 02:46pm

Nice one Mike. If I get mine sorted will probably do the same. Asked the dealer today if he could activate Aux 1 for my mp3 player. All I got were blank looks and "don't know what you mean". Oh well, better print some info from here and take to them...

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
Dave_Retired., Sat Feb 10 2007, 03:00am


Printable version here - Click Here -

Plus ask them if they use 'Proxia' or 'Lexia' diagnostic system - if Lexia they can't do it as theres a fault on the last software update (37) which won't let them enable the Auxilliary ports until the next release which could be 3 months away so you may need to find another dealer using Proxia like I did

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
Dave_Retired., Sun Feb 25 2007, 11:05am

[shadowbox=http://www.c4owners.org/images/c4/ice/ida-x001.jpg|Alpine iDA-X001|Alpine Head Unit iDA-X001|right][/shadowbox] How about the latest head unit from Alpine the iDA-X001 which has build in iPod support for £209.99 as an alternative

'If you’ve been waiting for an Alpine head unit that you can control just like your iPod, this is it. Menus that are navigable exactly like the iPod. All search options just like the iPod, ability to view album art as you would on the iPod and fast song selection as quick as the iPod'.

OK you loose some of the steering column functions but the Citroen Cable whilst it works fine around town etc. is let down by a lack of volume on long fast motorway runs I'm afraid to say after a couple of weeks of proper testing using an iPod Nano

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
, Tue Feb 27 2007, 04:24pm

Hi,

I have an Alpine iPod unit (CDE-9850Ri) and want to put it into a C4 coupe. Spoke to a dealer but they looked at like I was mental! So have a couple of questions:

1. Is there a steering wheel control interface?

2. What will the screen that displays radio info show?

Would really like some help with this.

Cheers in advance

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
wozza, Tue Feb 27 2007, 06:10pm

[shadowbox=http://c4owners.org/images/c4/large/wozza_dash.jpg|Alpine Radio||right][/shadowbox]
Short answer yes. But its not tested on any of our cars and is expensive.

Otherwise its NO to steering controls.

Depending on your model of car. If its a VTR and below you will likely occasionally need ot put the unit back in again to change certain things. Where as on the VTR+ and VTS, Exclusive we can control everything via the steering controls you dont get on the lower models.

So we still get full trip computer that works on the screen ability to change units, headlights etc. Basically everything remains fully functional just the audio settings section gets greyed out. If you look at my image you will see you can see the date / time and my current MPG miles traveled so far etc.

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
, Wed Feb 28 2007, 03:17am

Nice one. Thanks for that. Will see what they say when I test drive on Saturday.

The car in question is a 1.6 HDi VTR coupe (used).

Is the screen different in the VTR+, VTS, Exclusive to that in the VTR then? I was under the impression from the brochure that they were all the same.

The dealer I spoke to yesterday told me that if did change the unit the screen would be totally blank and could mess up the other electrics in the car but he seemed really unsure of this - said he had asked in the workshop but he was really hazy.

Cheers once again

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
Dave_Retired., Wed Feb 28 2007, 03:38am

Screen is the same - it's just that different functions are available on higher spec models by adding additional modules, sensors etc. and a more 'enabled' sophisticated software version

Dealers can add, adjust avaialable functions via a laptop plugged into a central point under the ashtray

Trouble is that they get asked so rarely for things that they haven't got the experience and often don't have the inclination to check via the Citroen 'Bible'

You will get a different response from different dealers I'm afraid on most things

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
, Wed Feb 28 2007, 03:53am

Right! So can I have the trip info displayed on the 'radio' screen as per wozzas pic in a VTR? WOuld they have to enable this function or is it not possible?

Thanks for the help!

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
BigJohnD, Wed Feb 28 2007, 03:55am

What happens is the Radio icon on the Menu is greyed out and all the options under that menu heading are unavailable. On the display, there will be no information relating to the radio - just blank spaces. You will need to look down at the HU's own display instead for info, which I find not as comfortable. The calendar, trip computer and diagnostic displays are unaffected.

I'm not familiar with your particular HU, but it MAY be possible to hook it up to the steering boss controls and the display screen PROVIDED your HU has the necessary connections AND there is an after market adaptor to fully connect the HU to the Citroën

You will need to check the specifications/handbook/rear of your head unit to find out if it has an imput port for external control (most have these days) and an output port for external display (not so common).

Connects2 manufacture such adaptors, but they're not a direct seller.

InCarExpress has a site which shows and sells adaptors, but they don't hold much stock when it comes to niche items, and delivery can take some time.

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
Dave_Retired., Wed Feb 28 2007, 05:53am

Connects2 have a dealer locator by postcode on there site

Take a look at that - find a specialist local dealer and have a word would be the way to go - BTW Halfords also stock Connects2

They also have a car search by car registration facility which shows you what products are available and how they work - the IPLUGRDS-N iPod FM Modulator has a Charging Facility Auto TP Switching plus track name display via RDS - that's on the home page - Click Here -

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
, Wed Feb 28 2007, 07:13am

Brilliant, thanks for that.

I am happy to just use the HU screen - as mine displays artist/track/album info from the iPod. Just didn't want a completley blank screen - If calendar etc still works then that is great.

Will ask at the dealership that am test driving from on Saturday.

Will keep you posted.

Cheers

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
, Wed Feb 28 2007, 10:39am

Just spoken to local connects2 dealer - they don't make an Alpine interface.

Not too fussed though as long as can use the HU.



Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
, Wed Feb 28 2007, 11:34am

Got my Aux1 enabled at Duxford Citroen along with the required cable today. Result! They had not done this before so used the info posted by C4owner so thanks to him also. They charged me £25 for about half hours work and took head unit out so I could connect the cable, all of which was very reasonable I thought.

At first using my iRiver 1GB mp3 player I was not getting anything. This was using cable colour coding as in instructions that came with cable ( 4-Red 10-White 11-Black). This did not work even after trying on 2nd aux so then I reconfigured as suggested in forum (3rd option) to 11-Black 10- Red 4-White. Still did not work so again swapped to 2nd aux and then...SUCCESS! I am wondering if aux ports in forum guide photo are wrong way round? Anyway, experimentation is the key obviously if it does not work at first.

Now have the cable running along from behind head unit through existing gaps in casing and under central column casing up to the central armrest so perfectly hidden but handy to change mp3 player options plus you can recharge player from cig lighter.

As mentioned before, volume disparity compared to radio and CD is great, you really need to crank up both mp3 and source input 1 volume. Be careful when returning to CD or radio!!!

Now planning on investing in Creative Zen M 60GB (holds up to 30,000 tracks!) so can consign CDs to the house now. Does anyone else use a Creative? I was wondering if I use the audio/video out cable you can get (headphone jack to yellow, red and white jacks) will improve the audio volume level?

Creative ZenM does not have proper line out function though but otherwise seems much better option than iPod. Start of a ‘best mp3 player forum war’ methinks?!


Regards,

M


Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
, Wed Feb 28 2007, 12:19pm



Looking from the rear of the unit, the left hand aux port has a pin 11 connected, (Aux 2 on the forum diagram), but the right hand aux port does not have a pin 11 connected.
From this, I am guessing your connection is on the left hand aux port?
I am trying to establish the pinouts of these ports to see if there's a possibility a 3rd party MP3 multichanger could be wired up to the standard unit.
Standard audio convention suggests with your set-up:
Pin 4=white=Left Audio out
Pin 10=red=Right Audio out
Pin 11=black=Audio Earth.
Not sure if this is true, but hoping it is, as it gives me a baseline to work from!!!
Next to find is +12v pin and power Earth pin!!!
Anyone help????

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
, Wed Feb 28 2007, 02:00pm

Yes it only worked when plugged into left hand aux port (when looking at the back of head unit).



Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
, Thu Mar 01 2007, 03:45pm

OK , some potentially useful info now regarding pinouts of the rear sockets:
(BTW my radio is a Blaupunkt RD4 N1-00 non mp3 playing one)
As you look from the back, wih the Aux sockets at the bottom:
LHS=Aux 2 (also labelled physically "B")
Pins Function
1 Audio R
2 Audio Earth
4 Audio R
7 Audio L
10 Audio L
11 Audio Earth
RHS=Aux 1 (also labelled physically "C")
1 CD Changer Earth
2 Signal for giving CAN for CD Changer
3 Feed for CD Changer (Maybe +12v?)
4 Audio R (From CD Changer)
7 Signal for giving CAN for CD Changer
8 Audio Earth
10 Audio L

Hope this helps someone and may answer a few of the connection issues. I am most interested in the CD changer mode as I am investigating if a 3rd party (non-blaupunkt) CD changer could be wired in(basically because I would like to keep the existing CD player, but have a MP3 CD changer and can't find a Blaupunkt one!!)
The 2 lines for CAN don't mean a lot to me at the moment, but I will suss it out, and the other issue is that it uses DOG protocol to communicate with the changer (whatever the hell that is!! )
Any help would be gratefully received!!
Thanks, Mark.

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
, Thu Mar 01 2007, 03:54pm

Just noticed after posting this that if they are using normal audio convention (ie, Red=Right, White=Left) some of you may have your inputs back to front (May not notice, but your rights might be left and vice versa!!)
Only way to prove they are right way rond is to record just one channel and play it back and see if it comes out of the correct speakers!! )
Sorry, but was just a thought!!

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
BigJohnD, Thu Mar 01 2007, 06:37pm

Is there any way to tell if the additional ports have been enabled?

I ask because under the radio Menu I find options for a CD changer, which I don't have but seem to be active.

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
, Fri Mar 02 2007, 06:36am



For sound quality, I dont think you can beat the Sony Walkman one. Problems with it are the screen is very reflective, so its difficult to see, it only does music and only does Sony 'ATRAC' files, you can load MP3's on and it will convert them onboard, and there are no holders, chargers or anything for the car as yet.

I have one in my car though and it does sound fantastic compared to IPod.


Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
wozza, Fri Mar 02 2007, 08:28am

I bought a zen over the ipod for the improved SQ.

But wish I had bought the Ipod so I could have put it into my car. My headunit has full ipod control so I could have hidden it in the armrest or similar. The zen plugs in just like it would on the RD4 standard unit though.

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
BigJohnD, Fri Mar 02 2007, 08:54am

Yes, I'm coming to terms with shadowbox! And no, there's no AUX port on the Blaupunkt RD4.

Have a good weekend; I've got to take The Leader of The Oppostion out for her brithday.

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
Bill, Fri Mar 02 2007, 03:00pm

After giving dealer info from this site they say they haven't got the correct computer to enable the AUX port?
I thought it was just the software that might be different.
So, I give up...

I too have a Sony Walkman NW-A1000 which is excellent and also has the option of using line-out. There is also a volume hack for it to get over the EU volume limit.

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
Dave_Retired., Fri Mar 02 2007, 03:32pm



Posted 8th Feb in this thread Bill:




Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
Bill, Fri Mar 02 2007, 03:48pm

Sorry, I took it as two variants of the software and not hardware..

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
Dave_Retired., Sat Mar 03 2007, 02:18am


Well it is different software Bill on a different hardware system but the car is all the same!

Confused - yes you should be.

Why it isn't standard is beyond me and probably a 'legacy' issue from past mergers

It's interesting though that the upgrades etc are all handled by 2 3rd parties and not Citroen themselves. If anything was ever designed to cause issues this one is.

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
Bill, Sat Mar 03 2007, 06:15am

I have just purchased a TomTom Fm transmitter mount for my 910 and it works very well. Sound quality and volume the same as anything else on the standard radio. The 910 will hold about 3000 songs so I won't need to use the mp3 player although I can plug an ipod into the mount if required.

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
Dave_Retired., Sat Mar 03 2007, 07:00am


Just had a look at that option on the TomTom site
and it works with the 510, 710 as well as the 910

Sounds a much more painless way to go if the sound quality is OK - The transmitter I tried from Belkin was totally useless though

I can't go that route though as my TomTom is a base Go supplied by the company I work for and if replaced will be a base TomTom One so effectively rules that option out for me for now.

Good to know though for the future

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
, Thu Mar 08 2007, 11:25am

For anyone interested, I purchased a Creative ZenM 60GB and am very happy with it in general, especially with cable link to RD4 unit.

Using an AV out special cable I bought from EBay it takes sound straight from the 'dongle' slot on the bottom. This gives noticeably better and louder sound than that possible using the headphone jack. It disables volume control from the Zen (i.e. it does not have to be cranked to max) and the head unit volume only has to be at halfway or so to get good volume even at high speeds. Thus, it is not quite so shocking when you transfer to another source! I noticed that traffic reports cleverly cut in at a much lower volume regardless.

When not using it I keep it hidden in the central armrest (cannot see any cables as they are black and mainly chased along central column casing). When driving I keep it under handbrake so I can jog it on (without even looking down) if not happy with what my random play is giving me and it does not seem to slide around in that position.

Hope this helps anyone else thinking of getting the cable/aux 1 thing going.

M


Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
, Mon Mar 12 2007, 08:33am

Hi,

I have just come across this problem and like the sound of this cable to the auxilary input on the C4 Stereo. I called my local dealer who didn't have a clue at first so i passed on the excellent information from this site. They have now ordered my the cable in and have quoted me £102 for the cable fitted and auxillary input enabled (£23 for the actual cable). Is this reasonable, how much has anyone else paid?

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
Dave_Retired., Mon Mar 12 2007, 08:45am


Thats a rip off - it's 10-15 minutes on the laptop to enable the auxiliiary - they pull out the ashtray - plug into the socket and scroll down a menu and press enter - you can do it as fast as reading this

You can fit the cable yourself but if they were doing it they can hardly charge more than an hours labour and it won't take anywhere near that to do everything (which is probably the minimum charge)

Find another dealer


Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
, Mon Mar 12 2007, 08:52am

Thanks, i'll keep that in mind when I take it in tommorrow, I wont be paying that anyway. Seems a cheek that they can quote that when I had to tell them how to do the work!

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
BigJohnD, Mon Mar 12 2007, 01:54pm

Sounds like the software and the connecting cable would be very handy to have!


Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
wozza, Mon Mar 12 2007, 03:38pm

Useful...but expensive.

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
, Thu Mar 15 2007, 07:38am

I've got C4G on order. From this and other threads I think everything in it applies to a C4G as it does to a C4. A couple of questions that someone might be able to answer.

- Does switching the RD4 to classic (conventional mode) change anything else other then enabling the Aux ports? ie does it disable anything?

- I have a TomTom 910 which can play audio out via bluetooth. Does anyone know with the RD4 with factory fitted bluetooth supports Bluetooth Advanced Audio Distribution Profile (A2DP)?

- I've ordered the factory fit bluetooth option on the RD4, am I likely to therefore end up with the unit with 2 Aux ports and will one of those ports be free for me to get the 9706AG cable fitted?

Thanks

(PS Thanks for everyone's contributions - everyone I've spoken to at Citroen and at the Dealership is clueless !)

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
Dave_Retired., Thu Mar 15 2007, 09:43am


1. Does switching the RD4 to classic... Nope doesn't affect anything else

2. To be honest I have no idea

3. I've ordered the factory fit bluetooth option on the RD4,...... should still leave 1 port free for the cable - the block might be 'filled' so you may need to wire the cable into that rather than use a separate one but looking at the diagram it uses different pins anyway

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
, Thu Mar 22 2007, 12:23pm

I have just ordered a C4 egs VTR+ and thanks to this website was able to have the last little concern I had about the radio etc, resolved - the inability to plug in an IPOD.

The last little bit of the deal was to ask for the cable to be installed. The sales guy had no knowledge of it but I said I would show it to him here, before we got on line he called their parts guys, who came back with an answer. The quoted price was I think £21 for the cable and £50 for fitting, + VAT. In the end we split it and it added £40, so the "official" price is £80 inc VAT.

Thanks for the info on this site, I have not bought a Citroen before although I've often had them as rental cars in France, so found it very useful to read such a lot of stuff before deciding to buy.
Steve Last

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
Dave_Retired., Thu Mar 22 2007, 02:14pm


Welcome to the club!

£50 + vat for fitting is an hours labour charge - excessive but probably there minimum but it really doesn't take an hour, honest.

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
, Tue Mar 27 2007, 05:37am

On the subject of labour costs, I recently had an oil and filter change done for £51 total, inc parts and labour and vat, so it may be a dealer thing?

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
, Thu Mar 29 2007, 09:37am

No I figured it would be pretty quick, in reality it was just part of the negotiation. I didn't want to start fiddling about immediately after taking delivery. A few years back I had a different and expensive (Blaupunkt) radio fitted to my wife's new Skoda Fabia as the standard one then didn't have a CD, just a tape deck, and it has never been satisfactory as the radio reception was mcuh worse due to some internal eartjhing issue, so I just wanted Citroen to do it with their own bits this time.
Thanks again
Steve

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
wozza, Thu Mar 29 2007, 10:09am

I would not pay them £50 to put a piece of coat hanger into 4 holes and then plug something into a port on the rear of a headunit.

Its probably harder to go turn your computer on and use this website.

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
, Thu Mar 29 2007, 12:09pm

Is there any way you can tell if your radio is in 'Classic' mode. My new car was supplied with the MP3 feed as part of the deal. When I picked the car up on Saturday they said that whilst fitted, they had been unable to get the aux feed working.

I took the car back today for them to have another go at it and I even pointed them at this thread for them to read. They are being honest enough to say they have never fitted one before so they are in uncharted waters. Again, they were unable to get the aux feed working.

When I came home, I took the radio out and checked the wiring against the intstruction contained in this thread. I reconfigured the plug to both settings and tried both aux sockets on radio (RD4) without success.

I supposed now the only thing left to ponder is whether they have set the radio mode correctly. They say they have. They also say they swapped the radio for one out of another car and it picked up the aux lead straight away.

Sooo, does anyone know if you can tell what mode your RD4 is in?



Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
, Mon Apr 02 2007, 06:53am

I did the install myself yesterday, 15 minutes and we had sound from an ipod clone and an ipod shuffle.

The dealer had changed the radio to Classic at the 1500 miles 'service', although the guy had to be told how to do this of course!

If you press the 'Source' button on the radio repeatedly it will show you the inputs that have been enabled. If you don't see Aux 1 or Aux2 with a picture of a 3mm 'Plug', then the radio hasn't been configured for 'Classic', as simple as that.

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
Bill, Mon Apr 02 2007, 07:03am



That's if they can.. They apparently need the correct Computer, then the correct software. Mine doesn't have either..

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
, Mon Apr 02 2007, 10:35am

Thanks guys. They say that they want me to take the car back and someone from Citroen Technical will talk them through what they have to do by phone. That should sort the problem one way or another. Either they will get it working or they will discover their equipment is out of date

I live part way between two Citroen dealers so if they can't get it right this time I will take it to the other and, providing the second dealer can sort it, give dealer No.1 the bill!!


Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
, Sat Apr 07 2007, 12:57pm

Just picked up my car this afternoon. The sales guy said it had taken them much longer than anticipated to fit the Ipod cable .... a couple of hours or so! Which suprised me greatly in view of the comments here.

In the handover I didn't pay a lot of attention to it other than to ensure that there WAS a cable there that would plug into an iPod, and there was. However what surprised me even more was that when I got home and went through everything in more detail, I found that:

(a) what I have inside the glove box is a small box screwed to the roof of the gloive compartment with 3 sockets - an audio jack and red and white AV sockets, and:

(b) that in the owners manual page 95 it says that the glovebox has "3 sockets for connecting audio-visual equipment" !!

So what is standard and what isn't? I can't go back and enquire what they actually did as the service guys aren't there until Tuesday.

Steve L

PS it does work as advertised here however, so thanks to all for the tip-off.

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
, Thu Apr 12 2007, 08:58am

Hello

I am hoping that someone here may be able to answer a query that has been bugging me for a while. Basically, I have a C4 2.0Hdi VTS, with the CD multichanger, and as an option, the Factory fit bluetooth. I bought a 9706AG cable sometime ago, and found that this could not be fitted if the bluetooth system was installed as they use the same aux port, so, annoyingly, I had to detach the bluetooth wiring so I could plug my ipod in. The dealer then (with my help!) switched the port to classic mode, and my ipod then worked flawlessly (no issues with volume either). Now, when the port was enabled, in the software, only 1 port was 'visible' as being controlled, although there was another option of 'CD Changer Present'. My question is, if I unplugged the CD Changer, and had this option changed, would that allow me to use that port in classic mode, and consequently allow me to plug the bluetooth back in?

Reading this thread seems to indicate that there is a lot of talk about there being the 2 distinct ports, but having examined the 9706AG fitting instructions I actually think that the RD4 only has 1 aux port, plus a dedicated CD changer port - hence why the 9706AG cable can only fit on the left hand port (if you examine the 2 ports you will see that the plugs are not actually compatible - they are a mirror image of each other, so cannot be plugged into the other socket by mistake).

Thoughts? I would gladly be proved wrong about this as I would rather have the CD changer unplugged and the ipod cable plugged in there instead and be able to use the bluetooth hands free that I paid extra for....

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
Dave_Retired., Thu Apr 12 2007, 11:06am

With the 'Bluetooth' Plug are all the pins in use?

Same applies to the CD Plug?

If the required pins are available (there is a list earlier in this thread) then you could in theory double up in 1 plug as the lead ends slip in and out fairly readily

If you do decide to ditch the CD player you can simply by another quadlock and wire it up for the ipod cable?

Just throwing ideas into the pot atm until we can get a definitive resolution

Can you post the numbers of the pins used for the Bluetooth?



Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
, Thu Apr 12 2007, 05:08pm

On the bluetooth plug, the pins in use are the same as on the ipod cable (1,2,7) - it can't be doubled up anyway, as when I first had the port enabled, the bluetooth was still plugged into it, and it then meant that the hands free only worked when the source was set to Aux input. The CD changer plus has most, if not all, of its pins in use - I have previously connected the ipod cable to this port via the correct cable block, using a combination of ports but it has never worked - it basically assumes that there is no CD changer there and only switches between the built in CD player and the radio via the source button. I would like to think that if the 'CD Changer Present' option was switched off, then this port 'might' be switchable into classic mode and provide the extra aux input but I am not hopeful.

If you look at the 9706AG fitting instructions, where it gives examples for the Citroen software and what needs to be enabled, you can see that the screen shots relate to the C6, not the C4 - also, earlier in the instructions it seems to detail which units have 1 or 2 aux ports, based upon the presence of hands free kits and so on - all a bit vague though! I guess the only way I can really prove what works and what doesn't is to ask my dealer if I can book the proxia for an hour to try different combo's - a bit of an extreme solution if it gets me nowhere!

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
, Mon Apr 16 2007, 07:36am

Well, my saga gets more interesting. My dealer failed to reconfigure the RD4 to classic mode and didn't appear to want to try and solve the issue. I phoned another dealer who didn't have a clue what I was talking about so I spoke to a third who has been mentioned in this thread.

It involved a 120mile round trip so I combined the visit with the 1000/1500 service. Guess what, despite having carried out this operation in the past they couldn't reconfigure my radio.

They are using Lexia 37 though so that could be the issue. The difference this time is that they are determined to get to the bottom of the issue and once they're figure out what is (or more accurately, is not) happening they'll give me a call to try again.



Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
, Fri Jun 01 2007, 12:22pm

Wish I'd known about this forum BEFORE I got scammed by a local supplier and installer. I wanted a simple iPod solution - talked to the dealer recommended fitter and told him about the (9706AG) cable I read about somewhere.

What arrived on the day, accompanied by 2 filthy grease monkeys, was an ACTIPOD006 from connect2.com. The whole deal fitted cost £195.

All you get for that is the connector box for the steering column volume and track forward plus a cable that goes through the glovebox to fit to the iPod. On the head unit you only get track 45/99 no tag!

ALL my tracks are tagged.

The point I'm trying to make - DO NOT waste your money on that miserable connect2 unit, it's not worth it, pathetic piece of expensive cabling - £20.00 for the OE cable, fine - £120.00 for a connect2 (best price I found was £99.90) is a rip-off.

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
, Sat Jun 02 2007, 10:09am

hi, i ve just ordered a connects2 ctactipod006 but it was only £85 fitted and everything, where did you pay £195??
I got mine at halfords, thought they would be the most expensive place!

is there a better solution than gettting the connects2 one then?

i.e. a solution that offers more ipod control, price is not an issue

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
, Thu Jun 07 2007, 10:02am

Well, I am one happy bunny.

Just driven back from the car stereo place that have fitted my Ipod connector to my Pioneer AVIC head unit. Which means instead of interference from my FM transmitter interupting my Ipod joy, I now have touch-screen control of tracks, artists, albums, playlists. In fact everything you get on your Ipod, whilst the unit itself is tucked away in the glovebox.

The Pioneer adapter cost £69, and the shop charged all of £25 to fit it (took them 1.5 hours!) All prices include the dreaded!

Brilliant!

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
BigJohnD, Thu Jun 07 2007, 10:09am

Impressive! And good hear of success, too.

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
Dave_Retired., Thu Jun 07 2007, 10:12am


How about a picture so we can see what it looks like 'in car' (the touch screen system)

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
Dave_Retired., Tue Jun 12 2007, 09:28am


Just upload them individually as attachments to the post from your PC - the box is below the text input are when you post and I'll sort them out

Just make sure there no more than around 600 pixels wide

If there hosted somewhere else (not your PC though) just paste the link in and I'll sort it again

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
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Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
BigJohnD, Tue Jun 12 2007, 10:30am

Wow! Very cool. Sub-zero even!

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
, Tue Jun 12 2007, 01:32pm

Very. My kenwood headunit arrived hope to have it in by next week. Just waiting on adapters to come. Any pictures of the headunit with the moto-screen still in?

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
Stuey, Wed Jun 13 2007, 02:36am

that looks the danglies!!

What head unit is it?? I think I need it

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
, Wed Jun 13 2007, 02:55pm



What sort of adapters are you going to use? I hve installed a kenwood HU with just the cheapo adapters so have lost reverse warning and steering wheel controls. Do the adapters you're getting allow these to still work? If so, which ones are they?


Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
, Wed Jun 13 2007, 04:32pm

Hi

A canbus adapter which is £50 will alloy you to keep all your functions. I ordered the kenwood adapter, which i am assuming will do the same thing. I then need a wiring loom £8, and a reverse parking sensor interface. Will end up costing about £100 to keep all the functions.

Jeremy if you wouldnt mind you could take the headunit out and see what adapter is used so we can all benefit

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
, Thu Jun 14 2007, 02:00am



Could you give details of the exact bits and where you ordered them from? I have searched the net and never found what seems to be the correct items.


Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
, Fri Jul 20 2007, 04:43pm



The headunit is a Pioneer AVIC, fitted by the supplying dealer, so I guess it must have been a standard adapter that they fitted (or from a Pug 307). I still have all my wheel controls working. I'll ask the dealer if you like?


Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
, Fri Jul 20 2007, 04:50pm

would be great if you could

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
, Tue Aug 21 2007, 10:26am

Just spoke to Bollingmores Citroen in Sunbury and they quoted £45 to enable AUX 1. I mentioned it was just hooking up the laptop and enabling classic mode and the guy said "well sir, it's not as simple as that, there can be complications...". I asked what complications and he just said "its a bit technical.". :@

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
Dave_Retired., Tue Aug 21 2007, 10:31am


Priceless

Welcome to the site and the wonderful world of Citroen

The answer is simple though - call another dealer and see if you can get a more positive response

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
, Tue Aug 21 2007, 10:51am

this is great...

4 more qotes:

£40 plus vat
£45 plus vat
£45 - 89.99 plus vat
£65 plus vat.


anyone had it for less near london?

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
, Tue Aug 21 2007, 11:12am

Seems like the standard. 30 minutes minimum charge to hook it up to the Diagnostics system cheapest I've found it is £42.

I'm glad I chose Citroen.

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
Dave_Retired., Tue Aug 21 2007, 11:16am

Oh the joys of all those bright lights and congesting charging

Don't supposed you have any trips planned to anywhere outside London in the near future where you could find a friendlier dealer?

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
, Tue Aug 21 2007, 11:59am

I have posted this before but my local dealer in Newport South Wales took 5 mins to change it to classic mode and charged me nothing to do it, Thats what you call service

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
Dave_Retired., Sat Sep 01 2007, 08:38am

Nice job and a 'neat' idea

I'm sure others will be grateful for the tip

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
, Sat Sep 01 2007, 08:48am

I was present when my dealer enabled aux1 and it takes 5 mins to do, don't let them fool you into thinking it is a complex job that will cost hours of labour time. My dealer did it for nothing 1 because he had never heard of it and 2 for pointing it out to them so they could offer the service to other people

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
, Sat Sep 01 2007, 09:14am



Did you notice what they did with the connector already located in AUX 1, as I have found this also on mine?



Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
, Tue Sep 04 2007, 10:24am

I have just installed the CTACTIPOD006 interface from Connects2, and it beats everything else I have tried, hands down!

I had previously tried the citroen MP3 cable but had to ditch my factory fit bluetooth in order to fit it, so wasn't best pleased with that, or the fact it used the headphone out as opposed to the line out...

Then I tried the icelink product that connects to the line out on the HU and plugs into the line out (dock connector) on the ipod - piece of [%*^#@!] - the level was so low, it was inaudible. And still my bluetooth had to be disconnected...

Then I bought a Kenwood HU with ipod interface and a separate hands free bluetooth thingy - ok for a while, but still not the ideal solution (no reverse parking sensors or steering wheel control), so I was delighted when I found that Connects2 had finally brought out a compatible product.

later and I am very happy - full steering wheel controls and proper integration with the reverse parking sensors. Ok, the display doesn't show the track info, but I already had a brodit mount for my ipod, so I have it on that and can see it, but still control it from the steering wheel. It even integrates with the bluetooth properly and pauses playback when I make/receive a call. I also have lost my CD changer, but who cares when you have 11k tracks on your ipod?

I would heartily recommend this product over the Citroen MP3 cable - it is just as easy to fit (easier probably as no aux ports need poncing about with) and the sound quality is better than the headphone out from the ipod.

Top notch!!!!!

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
BigJohnD, Tue Sep 04 2007, 10:49am

Sounds terrific.

Let me get this this straight - it's a Quadlock insert into the existing loom to the RD4 with an additional cable with a standard iPod connector? So it powers the iPod as well accepting the sound from it? Where have you put the tail connector to the iPod?



Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
, Tue Sep 04 2007, 11:00am

The insert into the quadlock basically replaces the CD changer one, if you have it or just goes in the empty socket, if you don't. This then plugs into a small box, and another cable from this box plugs into the ipod using the standard dock connector, so any ipod will be compatible (except the shuffle). Mine is simply routed out of the passenger footwell as I have the brodit ipod holder mounted on a proclip that is attached to the centre console (the low side mount, I think is its technical name). So I can see the current track title - also means that my other half can choose what she wants to listen to from the passenger seat...

The buttons on the RD4 that would previously select which CD to play from the changer simply select the playlists on the ipod now - it also has a mode which utilises the C4's CD changer menu - this means you can toggle between playlist, album or artist selection and also set repeat and random options.

And yes, it charges it too.

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
, Tue Sep 04 2007, 11:16am

I agree! The interface was mentioned earlier in the thread actually (couple of pages back) by someone who had it fitted by a citroen dealer for £195!! And then wasn't happy with the lack of track display...

Firstly I think he was most definitely ripped off - it took me all of 5 minutes to whip the HU out and fit it. Secondly, he also thought the price (around £100 at the time) was steep for what it was. I disagree with this as, firstly, it proves more cost effective (especially as the price has lowered a bit) as there is no need to pay Citroen an extortionate amount to enable the aux port and secondly, this is about the 'going rate' for a device like this (the icelink products are similarly priced).

Obviously, if you don't have an ipod then it is all irrelevant and the 9706AG cable is probably the only way to go, unless Connects2 support other MP3 players, though I wouldn't be surprised if they thought it wasn't worth it.

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
, Wed Sep 05 2007, 06:56am

If you have a Cool model or below, bear in mind you will lose some of the car functions, such as menu control and the "Dark" feature. This is due to the lack of lower control buttons on the steering wheel.

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
, Sun Sep 30 2007, 09:43am

Hi Folks - i'm a new member so apologies if this has already been asked (i couldn't see it on the 13 previous pages!!!)
Do i have to get the Aux port switched to classic mode at a Citroen dealer? or can it be done at a car radio specialist?
The reason I ask is that my local Citroen delaer - which was 2 mins drive away from me in Wakefield - was a Dixons and so has now been shut down!!!
If it has to be a citroen dealer, will have to go to Leeds or Barnsley (has anyone used either of those for the aux switch?)

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
, Sun Sep 30 2007, 01:50pm

Must be main dealer only

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
, Sun Sep 30 2007, 04:09pm

I have been trying to scheme a way of fitting my mp3 player without the aux socket being used(currently has the cd changer fitted. I also want to use my subwoofer but the lack of connection again causes problems. I now have the parts i think is a cure all subject to time installing.

From ebay you can get a speaker to line level convertor. This converts the speaker wire to a line connection.

Line level converter / High-Low converter allows the user to run an RCA cable to an amplifier with a radio that only has speaker wire outputs, Inputs are adjustable as well.
Then i bought the real handy bit of kit.
BOSS AVA-1215 5Band Graphic EQUALIZER Sub Equaliser. This is a passive 5 band equaliser which has a subwoofer output. It also has a line in on the front to plug in your mp3/ipod/md etc. I have an existing 4 channel amp which i will wire to the cars speakers. This will enable me to connect my mp3 / use my subwoofer and the factory installed cd changer. It will not effect the steering controls. Obviously it will not allow changing tracks etc on the mp3

As i already had some items it has cost me £23 for the ebay parts (all are new). I still have to install the parts but can see no reason why it will not work.

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
BigJohnD, Sun Sep 30 2007, 06:09pm


I think I'm correct in saying that the RD4 has the facility for two auxilliary inputs - they're used at the factory for the CD changer and the phone. You should be able to connect the 9706AG Auxilliary input kit for Aux2 if Aux1 is being used for the CD Changer.

The details are here - - Click Here - - but there's no narrative/text to clarify the drawings and installation details are here - - Click Here - .

The connections are listed here - - Click Here -

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
BigJohnD, Sun Sep 30 2007, 06:44pm


The simple answer to who can enable the AUX ports is the Citroën dealer.

I can't comment on the dealers in Yorks, but how much dealers have charged/quoted has varied from free (included in a service and out of curiosity) to up to £90.
It's a simple and clean task, taking only a few minutes, as can be seen from the installation instructions - - Click Here - and if there is a charge it can only the minimum.

However, if you're thinking of attaching an iPod, then this may be a more satisfactory solution - - Click Here -

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
TomF, Fri Oct 12 2007, 10:12am

Just wanted to say thanks for this thread. I ordred and fitted the 9706.AG kit. I asked that the garage turned it on when it was having its last 12'500 mile service. Sadly they didn't have a clue what I meant and it's taken 3 trips for them finally to get it enabled. It is now working lovely.

I was suprised at this bit in the above topic where it states that the bass / treble controls don't work. That's certainly not the case in mine. Sure it has an isolated tone control from the other sources such as CD/Tuner. But if you go into the menu I can select bass, treble, loudness & ambience and they all work fine.

As a last note I've seen some people on here have made custom holders etc. Are they any good standard ones I can buy in a shop. Ideally I'd like one that would take the line out into the aux as its obviously at a better voltage (1v typically) and I don't have to have the amp in the high twenties.


Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
BigJohnD, Fri Oct 12 2007, 01:45pm

Hi, TomF, and welcome to C4O.

Thanks for link to "imp". It looks the biz to me, but I shall seek approval/expert opinon from my student daughter, who really needs to be surgically parted from her Barbie pink iPod Nano.

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
, Mon Nov 12 2007, 10:53am

Does the Connects2 adaptor allow the use of the CD changer along side w the adaptor? I know Xcarlink do., as claimed by them. Unfortunately, Xcarlink has no adaptor for PSA cars.

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
BigJohnD, Mon Nov 12 2007, 11:03am


Do I understand from that that you wish to use an after-market HU with the existing/Citroën OEM CD changer?



Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
, Mon Nov 12 2007, 04:00pm

sounds like he just wants to add ipod to the standard HU

am I right in thinking the other aux port will be used by reverse sensors if appropriate?

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
, Tue Nov 13 2007, 10:47am



Nope. I'm thinking of connecting the Connects2 via the CD changer port and at the same time remain hooked up to my existing CD changer. In this way, I can listern from the CDs or Ipod.

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
BigJohnD, Tue Nov 13 2007, 03:34pm


We need to clarify what's what here.

And you're asking what happens to the multi-changer when the interface is added - right?

The answer is I'm not sure; you need to check with Connects2.

You need to know that the Connects2 CTACTIPOD006 iPod interface is inserted between the existing wiring harness which terminates in quadlock connector and the back of the radio. You pull off the quadlock connector from the back of the RDA and insert the CTACTIPOD006 iPod interface.


Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
, Wed Nov 14 2007, 11:12am

Interesting... so it doesn't use the aux ports??

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
BigJohnD, Wed Nov 14 2007, 12:57pm

"The adaptor simulates a CD autochanger, so you select it via the "Source" button on the radio. You should leave approximately 10 seconds after plugging in the iPod before attempting select the adapter via the "Source" button."

That seems to answer Joe's question - it's either the iPod or the CD changer, not both.

BTW, the Connects2 adaptor is not cheap at £99.


Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
, Thu Nov 15 2007, 11:16am

Yeap, u're right. No joy for both to work together. As replied by Connects2 technical. Xcarlink (which is from China, as expected) do offer such feature. Unfortunately, they do not have adapters for RD4, only RD3.


Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
BigJohnD, Thu Nov 15 2007, 12:08pm



Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
, Tue Dec 04 2007, 02:52pm

hi there,
This my first response to this forum. Hope to post useful things. I'm an owner of C4 GP 110 EGS. Since I bought my car, I been looking for a decent stereo upgrade. In my country, GP has got 6 speakers+Cd changer+Radio with MP3 playing ability (RD4 unit).
First I upgraded my front speakers to JL Audio VR650-CSI

Than my rear speakers to JBL GTO6507C (Originally I did not have any tweeters. New tweeters sounds good)

I wanted to spice things up a little. Added JL Audio A1200 two chanel amplifier for my sub.

And my sub JL Audio 10W1v2-4


This set up was good but controling my sub was difficult. ( As you know RD units have no sub channels).

I ended up buyin Deh-p980BT Pioneer Head unit along with CD-IB100II Ipod adapter, plus Hard Wired Remote Control Interface CA-R-PI.162 ( Pioneer Hard Wired Adapters Chart says it is for C4, but I took my chances)

Well, It was very hard to put all of them together. My challange was to fit, Ipod adapter+interface behind radio. ( very tight fit though). Somehow I managed to do so.

Result:

1. Hard Wired Remote Control Interface for C4 works for C4 GP as well.

2. If you have a factory fitted parking sensors as I am, pls bear in mind that, adapter itself retains steering wheel controls along with parking sensor display on screen. (Parking sensor is muted by the way/ No sound but display).

3. Anything other than Factory fitted RD4 unit will make you miserable if you want to close the little cover infront of head unit. Original head unit is kind of slim ( almost 1 cm than Pioneer unit)

4. This was by my fault. I bought my Deh-p980BT Pioneer Head unit from USA. Problem stars here. In USA, all FM stations are allocated in 0.2MHz increments on the odd decimal. The fact is, the FM radio will only receive about half the stations that it should do in the Istanbul / Turkey.

I ended up back to my old set up ( original head unit+upgraded speakers+amplifier+subwoofer) & Still trying to solve the frequency issue

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
, Sun Dec 09 2007, 01:13pm

I've probably missed it if indeed anyone has the same problem in previous replies....

I've had the Citroen cable fitted and enabled by a dealer....

Trouble is the volume output is Very low when using MP3 as a source....

Is there an adjustable input switch on the rear of the HU?

There's nothing on the block that carries the input sockets.

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
BigJohnD, Sun Dec 09 2007, 04:13pm


There's no adjustable input on the RD4 - you need to check the output from your MP3 player.



Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
wozza, Wed Jan 02 2008, 12:52pm

Just seen someone post this on another board so thought I would put it up here.

New iPod interface for the RD4. The 9702EZ. Adds USB support allowing file names and info to be displayed on main screen when using the iPod also allows charging and full control of the iPod from the headunit you can change the track on the iPod via the steering controls. Can see this possibly becoming quite popular with the iPod crowd.

Price is around £148.


Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
Rich_Eason, Wed Jan 02 2008, 03:54pm

Notice the LHD gets a neat little manual holder...Another thing for Johns LHD v RHD Comparison....no jammed box lids for LHD's

Notice you loose the Multichanger altogether where with the current one assuming you have enough plugs you dont?


Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
BigJohnD, Wed Jan 02 2008, 04:15pm

Cheers, Woxzza! They're also talking about it on "C4forum.de Forum", at €190!!

Here's a snap from their site:



Having got an iPod Nano for Christmas, I want one!! Google, here I come!

I can't find ANYONE selling it, not even in Europe HELP!!

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
Dave_Retired., Wed Jan 02 2008, 04:53pm

I got an iTouch (SWMBOB is getting the Nano) so looking for it as well BJD - as I said will see what I can find out tomorrow about UK availablity

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
BigJohnD, Wed Jan 02 2008, 05:09pm

Cool!

I've sent a message to Citroën UK - boy, is their site SLOW!

PS - I need to rip the iPod out of SWMBO's ears!! And who the hell are Take That???



Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
Dave_Retired., Thu Jan 03 2008, 07:52am

OK Moved this to a new separate thread - Click Here -

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
, Wed Jan 30 2008, 01:55pm

I currently have a Clio and am getting my C4 on Monday. (this will be the first time ever I have wanted a weekend to pass quickly!). Anyway, on the Clio I have a cable running from the aux port in the back of the head unit and a standard 3.5mm jack to the iPod,

(eBay Linked removed as no longer available)


(similar to the Citroen cable I presume) Does anyone know if this cable would be sufficient or would I need to purchase the Citroen one? Do all head units need the Aux activated by a dealer? THis is a bit of a pain as on my Renault nead unit I could do this myself.

Mind you I am tempted to get one of the more expensive options

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
BigJohnD, Wed Jan 30 2008, 02:50pm

Hi, Ramsay Ladders, and welcome ot C4O.

I would say that this Renault cable will not fit the Citroën.

The corresponding cable for the standard Citroën Blaupunkt RD4 is the Auxilliary input kit - 9706AG. Details here: - Click Here - If you are a Prem Mem, you can buy it for around £20.

It is a generic phono and 3.5mm jack socket input. You can plug in the sound output from any source. such as a Walkman, the kid's DVD player, solid state MP3 player, &c. Note that the output from an Apple iPod is very low power and the RD4 needs to be turned up to maximum to hear it - there is no pre-amp. I had mine activated free during a routine service.

The Apple iPod specific adapter link, known as the USB BOX 9702.EZ, is about £100 + VAT (for Prem Mems), plus fitting (DIY is possible) and activation as the CD Changer (not needed if you have a CD Changer, which it will replace - you can't have both on an RD4). Details here: - Click Here -

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
, Fri Apr 04 2008, 03:58am

Hi!

I recently bought a 9706AG cable from my dealer (too broke to get the usb box), and told them i'd fit it myself. They didn't even know what it was until I gave them the part number. Anyway, my system is the RD4 with jbl upgrade.
I got the head unit pulled out with the aid of a few narrow screwdrivers.
When looking at the back of the headunit the AUX on the left is occupied (which I believe is AUX 1), would this be for the jbl amplifier?
I wired up the little connector with the cable, for connecting to AUX2, as according to the leaflet that came with it. When I went to plug it into AUX2 it won't fit, the connector is a mirror image of AUX1 and the little white connector is only designed for AUX1.
How would I be supposed to connect to AUX2?

Anything wrong that I seem to be doing?

Thanks for any help.

Cheers

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
BigJohnD, Fri Apr 04 2008, 04:57am

How the sockets are wired determines which auxilliary input is used.

For AUX Input 1, it should be:
Pin 4 = Audio Right Aux1 (Red)
Pin 10 = Audio Left Aux1 (White)
Pin 11 = Audio Ground Aux1 (Black)

or, for AUX Input 2:
Pin 7 = Audio Right Aux2 (Red)
Pin 1 = Audio Left Aux2 (White)
Pin 2 = Audio Ground Aux2 (Black)

The supplied connector will only fit into the Part B socket.

Have a look at this thread, which shows close-ups of the parts, and how they fit together: - Click Here -

And this too, which is gives a lot of detail about the same issue you're dealing with: - Click Here -



Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
, Fri Apr 04 2008, 05:55am

Thanks BigJohnD for clearing that up for me, I understand it now (I think )

Going to go out and check it again now, i'll check which pins are already used up in Part B.

Cheers

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
, Fri Apr 04 2008, 05:55am

A cheaper alternative would be the connects2 interface and brodit mount. Funnily enough there is one for sale in the market place forum - bargain too!

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
, Sat Jun 14 2008, 04:35pm

Hey,

Just thought I'd share this - I've had the aux-in / 9706AG kit for a month or so, and I've finally got around to fitting it properly, but in a different place to what a few of you have done.

The leads in the kit are long enough for you to install it in the little flip out pocket at the end of the centre console. It's quite an easy and tidy install, and only took about 30 minutes to do.


Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
, Fri Feb 13 2009, 05:13am

I’m planning on buying the 9706AG AUX input cable for my C4. Having read the fitting guides on this forum, I am wondering when it says that you can’t use a mobile phone on AUX1, what it exactly means.

I have an iphone and plan to use the headphone out socket, so does this mean that I need to use AUX2.

The other puzzling thing is the pin-out I think I have seen 6 different configurations!

Can anyone explain this.


BTW I don’t have a CD changer, Bluetooth or reversing sensors.


Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
Dave_Retired., Fri Feb 13 2009, 06:15am

No it means you can't use a hands fee mobile kit if the 9706AG cable is used

An iPhone should work simply as an mp3 player using the headphone jack.


Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
BigJohnD, Fri Feb 13 2009, 07:37am

The actual wiring of the 9706.AG depends on what other ports/devices are already in use and the model of the radio. It's more than just wiring - port activation is also required.

You can use the CD Changer socket on the back of the radio for a full iPod (music only, no phone) link - the 9702.EZ.

The phone may require a Bluetooth link for full integration.

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
, Fri Feb 13 2009, 11:54am

Thank you both, about the 9702.EZ USB Box is that compitable with the iphone?

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
wozza, Fri Feb 13 2009, 12:12pm

Few on here have said it is compatible with the iPhone. Charges as well apparently.

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
BigJohnD, Fri Feb 13 2009, 12:49pm

For music, yes. That's play music, remote control, track/playlist display and charging. No phone link, though.


Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
, Mon Feb 23 2009, 01:27am

Ok so I picked up the cheaper option 9706.AG at the weekend. I think I finally understand this AUX1 and AUX2 setup. AUX 1 and AUX 2 normally refer to TWO different inputs, i.e. TWO different connectors but in this case they do not. its just a coincidence that the RD4 unit has two connectors at the back and as BigJohnD pointed out there refer to PORTB and PORTC.

So its the same connector PORTB for both AUX 1 and AUX 2.

is that correct?

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
Dave_Retired., Mon Feb 23 2009, 02:28am

Yes your correct - it's just on how you wire the plug if its Aux1 or 2

Re: Citroën C4 adding iPod / MP3 support (archive version)
Dave_Retired., Tue Oct 05 2010, 01:49am

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