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50,000 (now 80,200) trouble free miles in a C4 VTR+ 110 diesel Berline - replacing it with A NEW C4

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Wed Aug 27 2008, 04:18am

Member No: #82
Joined: Jan 22 2007
Location: Hoylake
The odometer hit 50,000 miles this morning on the way the work.

I've done about 38,000 of them in 20 months since I bought the car in Jan 07, and have very little to report other than satisfaction.

I've only had two issues, both of which were dealt with under warranty during a service, so there's been no unscheduled off road time. I even had the ABS recall (all was well there) done during the service.

I've added a DAB aerial, the 9706.AG additional input and the 9702.EZ iPod link (which I really like). I've also added an additional 12v socket in the recess under the headlamp adjuster switch for the SatNav, which keeps the cable out of the way.

The front tyres do around 24,000 miles and the rears about twice that, though I replaced them all a bit early to ensure I had new tyres for this summer's 3,000 mile tour of France, Spain and Andorra. I also replaced the front brake pads myself at about 46,000 miles - the disks seemed fine.

I had a puncture in the North of Scotland (Wick) which amounted to dropping the wheel off while we did some shopping and fitting it back on an hour or so later. On the way south, (Northumbria = south????) I bought a fifth Resolfen off Dave. It does wonders for the confidence knowing there's a proper wheel and tyre in the boot, but it's never been used - yet.

Battlescars: I have a chip in the windscreen which Autoglass say is OK. and both corners of the rear bumper are scuffed, thanks to idiots in supermarket car parks, and the cover of the driver's mirror is a bit wonky, probably also caused by a clumsy parker.

I bought some new wipers last year, and the head-light protectors for blanking off the beams for driving on the right.

The glove box door has jammed twice, but on both occasions I was able to force it open without damage, though there are now scratches around the lock.

Oil consumption has been negligible.

The Black/Grey 'Mesh 3D X-Ray' cloth seats clean up OK but need serious hoovering to get all the crumbs and fluff from the little perforations. They're good big seats. Very comfy, and don't get cold in the winter nor hot in the summer. SWMBO keeps falling asleep in the passenger seat, so they must be OK.

And the climate control is great too. It doesn't get much heavy use in the UK, but it worked superbly when the outside temp was 41ºC in northern Spain, dropping the temp by 25º to around a cool 16º inside.

The leather steering wheel is really nice to hold- really solid leather. Far, far better than the rubbish in a F*c*s which disintegrates and leaves black marks all over your hands, and which Ford won't replace under warranty - "that's wear and tear, mate" - yeah, right.

As regards style, the mono orange/black display screens look dated now - a single full colour display would be good. The overall shape and presence is still a delight. I love the powerful bright-ware Citroën double chevrons on the front.

An finally, the engine. It's a dream. For a 1.6 turbo. it's really powerful. When the turbo's on song, it really powers away, and the steep climbs in the Pyrénées were a doddle, even fully loaded. And the the economy is exceptional. I don't recall ever getting under 50mpg from a tankful, and have had over 60mpg on a few occasions. Brill.

All I can say is, the VTR+ 110 diesel is the car to have! (Photo taken this morning, 27/08/08)

I now need to phone the dealer to book in for the 50K mile service.
Wed Aug 27 2008, 12:57pm
Member No: #2655
Joined: Mar 03 2008
Location: heronridge nottingham
I hope my VTR does as well has yours John I too will be a happy man, here's to the next 50,000 happy driving miles
Thu Aug 28 2008, 06:13am

Member No: #82
Joined: Jan 22 2007
Location: Hoylake
Thanks, lagman.

I just love my C4, it's a gem.
Thu Aug 28 2008, 07:10am
I'm sure if we all get to the 50,000 mark with only miner problems then we all be happy.

Good luck to the next 50,000 John.
Thu Aug 28 2008, 08:03am
At what age / mileage would you think about changing it BJD ?
Fri Aug 29 2008, 06:47am

Member No: #82
Joined: Jan 22 2007
Location: Hoylake
Glyn wrote ...
At what age / mileage would you think about changing it BJD ?
Not really thought about it. It's still not yet 3 years old, the MOT being around Christmas time.

At the moment, it'd be another C4, probably the same model, VTR+ 110 diesel Berline but in Rouge Lucifer. I only ever had two door models to keep the kids in the back, and I'm too old to be bobbing in and out to let people sit in the back.

I hope that the new re-styled model has better internal storage space, improved dash, bigger boot, a more complete coversion to RHD, is iPod and DAB ready, has integrated removable SatNav like that on a Toyota Yaris, there's options on the Economy Mode and the emissions are just under 120g/Km rather than just above.

There's not much else around (other than a C6!) that seems to appeal to me nor give so many features as standard.

Skoda did seem an option, mostly because the dealer was at the bottom of the road, but they've gone bust.

Walking the other way, it's half a mile to the M-B dealer, but I'd need to win the lottery to buy the £75K S Class I have my eye on - diesel 7 speed semi-auto with 'Distronic Plus' radar controlled cruise control, DAB radio, Rear auto climate control, Heated multi function steering wheel, Refrigerator, Keyless Go Pack, Memories for front seats, rear seats, steering column & door mirrors, Auto-dimming driver's wing mirror, &c. &c. but there's no iPod option! Tut tut, M-B!
Fri Aug 29 2008, 06:51am

Member No: #1
Joined: Aug 07 2006
Location: Northumberland
Glyn wrote ...

At what age / mileage would you think about changing it BJD ?

I'm looking at 200,000 miles and probably never
Fri Aug 29 2008, 07:26am
Member No: #84
Joined: Jan 24 2007
Location: Ilkeston, Derbyshire
c4owner wrote ...
Glyn wrote ...
At what age / mileage would you think about changing it BJD ?[

I'm looking at 200,000 miles and probably never

You have always said that you would run it until it broke...seems a long way off at the rate yours is going!!
Fri Aug 29 2008, 08:34am
I think that my C4 and I will grow old, hopefully disgracefully, together.
Fri Mar 06 2009, 06:24pm

Member No: #82
Joined: Jan 22 2007
Location: Hoylake
I thought I'd add a quick update, as it's over 6 months since I wrote the original posting.

Another 7,000+ miles have been added with only a couple of scheduled pitstops.

The 50K miles service threw up that the front discs were approaching the limit and the turbo heat shield had rusted and come loose. I tried to do the the front discs myself, but wasn't able to undo the retaining T55 torx set screws. This was partly because the car was on an axle stand on the drive, and I was scared I was going to heave the car off the stand and partly because they were well truly loctited in. To cut a long story short, I got a local garage to do it for fifty quid.

The heat shield was replaced under warranty, and the same day the car passed its MOT without comment. The chip in the windscreen is still there, but it didn't worry the MOT inspector.

I use the 2nd trip recorder for long term, i.e. for the full 6,000+ miles, and it has never been less than 50 mpg. While I don't exactly rag it or break speed limits, I like to think I'm up there in lane 3 on the motor way whenever it's possible. I have recorded over 60mpg for a 1,000 miles or so of motorway/autoroute driving without much difficulty. 650 miles is my (usually achieved) target from a tankful.

I don't clean the car very often but when I do, it does comes up well.

Staff at work like to ride in it if we car share - partly for the novelty ("the centre of the steering wheel doesn't turn") and partly because it's roomy and comfortable.

There's nothing else to report, not even a dud bulb

I lie - I did accidentally spray the interior of the car with Champagne causing the light idiot/repeaters on the steering column to go wonky for a few hours until the alcohol evaporated. Oh, and the cruise control/speed limiter flashed "SERVICE" once, but a squirt of switch cleaner and much rocking and rolling of the switches sorted it.

Anyway, I conclude that's excellence! What a terrific car and engine!
Tue Mar 10 2009, 04:53am
Member No: #1827
Joined: Dec 31 2007
Location: Krakow, Poland
My wife and I are hoping for about seven years and probably far less than 70,000 miles out of our C4. I suspect that the car is capable of almost Toyota-like milage based on how good it has been so far... but I think in seven years we will want an update anyway.
Tue Mar 10 2009, 05:06am

Member No: #82
Joined: Jan 22 2007
Location: Hoylake
Since writing that on Friday, I've knocked up another 1,000 miles visiting London, Manchester and Leeds.

I really must wash the car - the rear wiper maintains a clear arc in the mud for rearward vision, and the headlamps' performance is useless!

Assuming there's some credit out there, hopefully at very low rates, I'm vaguely thinking about a replacement VTR+ 1.6HDi 5 door probably early in 2010, possibly even a "10" plate. At this rate, the current car will have about 75,000 miles on the clock by then.
Sun Jun 07 2009, 06:06pm

Member No: #82
Joined: Jan 22 2007
Location: Hoylake
I hit 100,000Km last week while in the sunshine of Ireland:

That means the next service is due!
Sun Jun 07 2009, 06:22pm
Excellent! Your car still looks brand new!

I never cease to be amazed by the diesel's economy. 900km with another 300 to go!
Thu Jun 11 2009, 04:08pm

Member No: #82
Joined: Jan 22 2007
Location: Hoylake
foxmc wrote ...
I never cease to be amazed by the diesel's economy. 900km with another 300 to go!

When I filled up, the "distance to empty" showed 1320Km! (820mi). I should have taken a photo.

The average mpg for the last 9,000+ Km is 5.2l/100KM (54.2mpg), which I like!

I booked in for the 100K Km service today, but they're so busy, they can't fit me in for almost 2 weeks. Recession? What recession?
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