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sarchnary   
Fri Sep 06 2019, 09:41am
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Joined: Oct 08 2011
Location: london
My story is a bit long hope you don’t mind and if it’s at wrong section please correct me.

I have 2015 GP 2.0 blue hdi 150 manual

My flywheel was faulty due to engine vibration and flywheel faulty message on diagnosis and I had stiff clutch after I removed the gearbox I found out the clutch central slave cylinder is gave in and the bearing (if this is correct name) inside the mass flywheel is gone as well so now there is loads of playing on the DMF.

Car only done 30k miles and am not keen on buying the same make or model of dmf just looks rubbish to fail at that low mileage, considering my other cars done way above 120k and ten years of driving and still didn’t change dmf or clutch, this is just above 3 years and it was always giving me problems, stupidly didn’t take it to another Citroen dealers only my small town one till it was too late.

Part number
CSC 9675000480 (bought one new now)
DMF 9808378880
DMF reconditioned 1649616080 ( service.citroen.com shows this not sure what this is) if fits my car it says.

I am changing this myself as per full story below if you have time to read please do so,

I want to use single mass or later version dmf can anyone confirm if a DMF from any other car fit this model photos in the link below, so far I found:


Lastly most expensive one 2017 C4 gp 2.0 blue hdi but this one is most expensive one there again it comes with 6 mounting bores

I am not sure if only 2015 model has this 8 bolts to mount if not why the 2017 and so on has only 6 bolts

Any advise would be really great 👍.

Clutch disc and pressure plates seems ok? Any advise by looking at photos?
But don’t mind if I could buy three piece kit as they all are 3 piece kit online.

Other option would be send flywheel for repair but haven’t found any good garages yet or do they fix them here in the U.K.?

Photos here

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vexorg   
Fri Sep 06 2019, 05:15pm
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Joined: Jul 06 2017
Location: Scotland
If it's the same as my older 2.0 HDI then the slave cylinder is external and you can change that anytime. Probably less than half an hour to swap. Two bolts, the pipe is push fit, and then bleeding.
sarchnary   
Sat Sep 07 2019, 08:22am
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Joined: Oct 08 2011
Location: london
I think after 2006 this is not the case as all my c4 gp I had year 2007 on I could see gearbox had to come out to change slave cylinder.

I might be wrong though?

I’ll check the 15 reg I have access to and the 17 reg.
vexorg   
Sat Sep 07 2019, 08:50am
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Joined: Jul 06 2017
Location: Scotland
Mine's a 2011 2.0 HDI, looking at the manual, they all seem to be external slave cylinders
iscom   
Sat Sep 07 2019, 10:05am
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Location: Ireland Fermanagh & Galway
Ouch the flashing avatar can cause someone to have an Epileptic seizure
sarchnary   
Sat Sep 07 2019, 03:53pm
Member No: #22312
Joined: Oct 08 2011
Location: london
vexorg wrote ...

If it's the same as my older 2.0 HDI then the slave cylinder is external and you can change that anytime. Probably less than half an hour to swap. Two bolts, the pipe is push fit, and then bleeding.


I think I am talking about the wrong part must have got confused, I am talking about the release bearing slave cylinder or whatever is called, pls check photos it’s the last one now.

It’s very loose and spin by hand I heard or saw online that it should not spin that easily or freely should have some restrictions to it.
sarchnary   
Sun Sep 08 2019, 06:39am
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Location: london
Anyone any advise regarding the flywheel?
Also the CSC I can just replace the bearing?
vexorg   
Sun Sep 08 2019, 08:05am
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Joined: Jul 06 2017
Location: Scotland
The release bearing is in the middle, the slave cylinder pushes the release bearing. A CSC is a concentric slave cylinder, where the slave cylinder is part of the release bearing rather than external to the gearbox.
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 sarchnary (08 Sep 2019 : 09:38)
sarchnary   
Sun Sep 08 2019, 09:40am
Member No: #22312
Joined: Oct 08 2011
Location: london
vexorg wrote ...

The release bearing is in the middle, the slave cylinder pushes the release bearing. A CSC is a concentric slave cylinder, where the slave cylinder is part of the release bearing rather than external to the gearbox.


I did purchase original CSC new one online.

so now just the flywheel left.

Am thinking rather than spending £500 on one I’ll look for repair garages and send it to one as only the pilot bearing is gone or what’re the name is.
sarchnary   
Mon Sep 09 2019, 05:52am
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Joined: Oct 08 2011
Location: london
Any ideas if a flywheel with 6 bolts be ok for my car as mine has 8?
As long as it sit properly what would be the problems? These are three piece kit, just can’t believe mine failed at 20k, that’s why I want to get a newer version for it as it might be better not sure.
Details and photos about the cars they come from is at top of the thread
sarchnary   
Thu Sep 12 2019, 01:59am
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Joined: Oct 08 2011
Location: london
Is very quiet here,
Anyone any ideas or experiences with these cars.
The flywheel from 1.6 different to 2.0
 

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