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mogzie
 
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Joined: Jun 27 2018Location: south wales |
Hi all. I've just been told that the turbo has seized on my Grand Picasso c4. year 2008 and 74k mileage. Before this happened It had been coming up as an error of depollution system faulty intermittently for a while. I took it to a car garage and they told me it was the turbo outlet hospepipe which they changed. It rectified it for while but the problem came back again. I then took it to another garage and they told me could be fuel filter blocked. It went in to full limp mode. So I took it in to the garage for service and fuel filter change. they did a diagnostic and it came up as turbo seized. Does anyone know what the cause of this is? Could anything prevent the turbo from seizing? The garage is asking for £850 without warranty. Many thanks |
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peterjb44
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Joined: Sep 16 2013Location: Portsmouth |
you need to get a code reader so people on here can help regular oil changes and removing the filter from the banjo bolt (lower one connected to engine) on the oil inlet pipe for the turbo would be a good start for turbo not to seize. have you checked the turbo yourself......remove the air intake hose and check if it spins, it should turn freely without play or noise (do it with a cold engine or you will burn your fingers) then check it with engine warm.....remove pipe again and look to see if its spinning |
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mogzie
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Member No: #51506
Joined: Jun 27 2018Location: south wales |
Hi peter, thank you for your reply I greatly appreciate it. I haven't checked it myself. It is still in the garage at the moment. So I could pick it up in the morning and check it. Also where do I get a code reader? Thanks |
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TriumphGuy
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Joined: Jan 13 2017Location: Halifax, West Yorkshire |
Which engine is it? The 1.6 diesel engines are prone to turbo failure and the 2.0 HDi engines seem to be a bit more bulletproof. | ||||
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FrankBullitt
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    Member No: #19238
Joined: Apr 12 2011Location: Cambridgeshire |
You can’t ascertain a Turbo has siezed from a diagnostic - also a dealership doing work without a warranty is a concern, frankly it makes them sound like a joke. It needs to go to a dealer that has a decent reputation. |
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mogzie
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Member No: #51506
Joined: Jun 27 2018Location: south wales |
its a 1.6 diesel engine. | ||||
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peterjb44
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Member No: #32528
Joined: Sep 16 2013Location: Portsmouth |
you can get a code reader from ebay - Click Here - which may not show every code, the best - Click Here - which needs to be put on a laptop but will tell you any codes , have you got the car back? |
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mogzie
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Member No: #51506
Joined: Jun 27 2018Location: south wales |
Hi all, quick update. I went to the garage to look at the turbo. I tried to move the propeller (if that's what its called) and it would not spin it was sized solid, but there was lots of play in an up and down motion. I did not see the error code as they had reset the code. They told me I would need to run the car for a bit to get the code back on. What does everyone think? Thanks |
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peterjb44
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Member No: #32528
Joined: Sep 16 2013Location: Portsmouth |
no doubt the code was due to lack of air flow, the compressor propeller seized due to lack of oil flow which in turn snapped the shaft to the turbine (exhaust side) if you get a garage to do the repairs then they should give warranty if they change all the parts needed to be changed and a couple of engine oil flushs i would do it myself then at least that way you would know the parts were changed and not just told they were |
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routemaster1
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Joined: Jul 08 2007Location: Dorset |
peterjb44 wrote ... no doubt the code was due to lack of air flow, the compressor propeller seized due to lack of oil flow which in turn snapped the shaft to the turbine (exhaust side) if you get a garage to do the repairs then they should give warranty if they change all the parts needed to be changed and a couple of engine oil flushs i would do it myself then at least that way you would know the parts were changed and not just told they were You need to ensure that they renew, not just clean the oil supply pipes, and that the remove the sump and clean the oil strainer. If not, it will just happen again, sooner rather than later! |
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peterjb44
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Member No: #32528
Joined: Sep 16 2013Location: Portsmouth |
i only cleaned my oil supply pipe on my scudo with carb cleaner but removed the banjo bolt filter (which is the main problem), i purchased a new oil pick up strainer but that didn't fit so i cleaned the old one also cleaned out the vacuum pump filter mine has done 3k miles since and is still ok if you want to do it yourself then we can let you know how |
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mogzie
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Member No: #51506
Joined: Jun 27 2018Location: south wales |
Thanks Peter, do you think I still need to look at the code? Iphoned quite a few garages and they all said no supplier will give a warranty on the turbo as they know its a common fault. I wonder how difficult it is to do myself. |
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mogzie
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Member No: #51506
Joined: Jun 27 2018Location: south wales |
Sorry, I posted before seeing the last few replies. Thanks to you too routemaster. Yes I would like to know how to do it yourself? |
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peterjb44
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Member No: #32528
Joined: Sep 16 2013Location: Portsmouth |
watch this - Click Here - | ||||
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wunny
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Member No: #42824
Joined: Nov 29 2015Location: Cardiff |
If you have a turbo, driven by the exhaust gases, it will continue to spin when the engine is switched off, if running at the time. When the engine stops, the oil feed to the turbo bearings stops and bearing wear results. Always let the engine idle for a bit to let the turbo revs die down. People say that Slick 50 is 'Snake oil' but I used in in a Volvo 740 Turbo and it was still good after 250,000 miles. Those were the days when I did my own servicing - long gone now. Nowadays I rarely lift the bonnet! |
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