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Where can I buy C4GP Rear Spring parts?

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Xile   
Wed Apr 10 2013, 03:01pm
Member No: #24553
Joined: Mar 04 2012
Location: Telford
Hi,

I am not sure if I have posted before, so hi!

I own a 57 C4 GP Exclusive, today Citroen diagnosed that the air bag suspension is shot, however they cannot get replacement parts for a number of weeks, there are several cars that have been waiting since Feb!

We are going on holiday in 20 days time, and we are taking our 2 big dogs so we need the car. I want to convert the rear suspension to springs, I can get KYB springs off eBay for £38.00 each, but I cannot locate the following parts:

2 x Spring seats

2 x Bump stops

I have searched online but connot locate them, does anyone know where I may be able to locate these parts?

Cheers!
Dave_Retired.   
Thu Apr 11 2013, 02:49am

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Joined: Aug 07 2006
Location: Northumberland
At a Citroen or Peugeot dealership............


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 relijos (30 Jun 2013 : 15:55)
Rich_Eason   
Thu Apr 11 2013, 03:11am

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Joined: Jan 29 2007
Location: Bristol
Have you read through this thread? - Click Here -

I am sure that the conversion has been done before, however before you comit it might be worth contacting Dealer 1 to see if they can send you replacement bags.

Be aware that the part numbers have been superseded over the duration of the reported problems.

Xile   
Thu Apr 11 2013, 04:21am
Member No: #24553
Joined: Mar 04 2012
Location: Telford
Hi, Thanks for the info. I didn't know what the part numbers were so this will be a great help.

The swap between air bags and springs seems like a straight forward job, it will also eliminate the chance of this happening again.

Cheers!
Xile   
Thu Apr 11 2013, 04:29am
Member No: #24553
Joined: Mar 04 2012
Location: Telford
Rich_Eason wrote ...

Have you read through this thread? - Click Here -

I am sure that the conversion has been done before, however before you comit it might be worth contacting Dealer 1 to see if they can send you replacement bags.

Be aware that the part numbers have been superseded over the duration of the reported problems.

Thanks for your reply.

I have seen the thread, but I know that even if I replace the air bags there is good chance they will fail again and it's an expensive repair. TBH I'm not really bothered if I have air suspension or not, I bought the Exclusive model because of the other extra's, the suspension wasn't really a consideration, I'm happy to covert to springs safe in the knowledge that I haven't get costly air bags that could fail at any time.

Is a spring conversion common for disgruntled owners?

Cheers!
Xile   
Thu Apr 11 2013, 05:05am
Member No: #24553
Joined: Mar 04 2012
Location: Telford
C6 Dave wrote ...

At a Citroen or Peugeot dealership............




I have just called Citroen, having the part numers was very helpful.

If anyone else is interested the part prices quoted are as follows.

Rear Spring Bottom Retainer:

5164 51 Normal £11.76 +VAT
5164 50 Heavy Duty £10.93 +VAT

Surprised to see that the heavy duty part is cheaper.

5166 90 Rebound Block £13.48 +VAT

So a full set of the above parts and KYB springs from eBay means the cost to convert from airbags to springs is approx £135.00, Bargain!
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NorthernMonkey   
Fri Apr 12 2013, 01:46pm
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Joined: Feb 01 2011
Location: Germany
I have a 57 plate GP Exclusive which until recently had been faultless. A couple of months ago, the nearside airbag failed, now the drivers side has failed and apparently the air compressor has also logged a couple of faults so may be on its way out.

Needless to say, the garage can't get hold of the airbags cos of the backlog.

The car is regularly serviced and has covered approx 67000 miles - surely the air compressor shouldn't be going this early on???

Added to this the injector seals went 2 weeks ago-the positive being now they're fixed the car is averaging 10mpg more. Every cloud etc....

Really torn between replacing with metal springs but wary of it not being a recognised repair. . .

Decisions, decisions!!!!
Xile   
Thu Apr 18 2013, 04:03am
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Location: Telford
Springs were fitted yesterday, all good!



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Wifheld   
Mon Apr 22 2013, 04:05pm
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Joined: Apr 22 2013
Location: Winchester
Hi Xile, did you have Citroen perform this repair? Your total price seem cheap if it includes their labour. What was required to decommision the compressor and prevent ECU fault codes etc? Were they happy to perform the conversion?

Little confused at the lack of shock absorber.
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 tonymannion (19 Feb 2015 : 14:32)
looxuser   
Mon Apr 22 2013, 05:31pm
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Location: poulton le fylde
Where did you source the springs please?
Dave_Retired.   
Tue Apr 23 2013, 01:03am

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Joined: Aug 07 2006
Location: Northumberland
looxuser wrote ...

where did you source the springs please?

You need to read through threads and replies as the information is there:

Xile wrote ...

I want to convert the rear suspension to springs, I can get KYB springs off eBay for £38.00 each
BigJohnD   
Tue Apr 23 2013, 02:10am

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Location: Hoylake
Wifheld wrote ...

Little confused at the lack of shock absorber.

Look at the picture - they're behind the coil spring.
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 Wifheld (23 Apr 2013 : 04:32)
Wifheld   
Tue Apr 23 2013, 04:30am
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Location: Winchester
Got it, and should have done my maths, no labour fee included. Still interested to hear how to decommision compressor and avoid fault codes?
Dave_Retired.   
Tue Apr 23 2013, 06:37am

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Joined: Aug 07 2006
Location: Northumberland
You hook the car up to 'Lexia/Proxia' (Dealer Diagnostic System) go into the settings on the car and deselect the pneumatic suspension option
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 Wifheld (23 Apr 2013 : 09:49)
Wifheld   
Tue Apr 23 2013, 09:57am
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Joined: Apr 22 2013
Location: Winchester
Looks like the way forward, my Citroen main dealer has told me they can't get the airbag parts, and cannot tell me if/when they will be available again. Disgraceful behaviour by Citroen UK not to keep the dealers informed. My dealer expects there is either going to be a change in manufacturer or a design change, hence the block on supply of the old parts. I now have 8 grand worth of Citroen on my drive unuseable unless I butcher the standard spec and opt for springs. No problem in doing this but Citroen should not be forcing owners to go down this path, this will no doubt have an impact on resale.
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