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Sonny   
Wed Mar 02 2011, 03:31pm
Seven Months don't look good
Dave_Retired.   
Thu Mar 03 2011, 01:26am

Member No: #1
Joined: Aug 07 2006
Location: Northumberland
Shaneygreen wrote ...

Any movement on this one then??

Nope, nowhere near enough interest for them to make it viable.
Shaneygreen   
Fri Mar 04 2011, 12:17pm
Member No: #15135
Joined: Aug 20 2010
Location: Cleator Moor (Cumbria)
Aww i was hoping to get one :/

Maybe in the future
Gooders   
Tue Feb 07 2012, 04:04pm
Member No: #8352
Joined: Mar 20 2009
Location: East Yorks
Any chance we can re-kindle this?

Even if we have enough to cover what is wanted by the members and they cost a little more.
JonM   
Tue Feb 07 2012, 04:27pm
Member No: #211
Joined: Apr 06 2007
Location: Redditch, Worcestershire
Again I'm interested subject to cost

CamM   
Fri Apr 05 2013, 11:50pm

Member No: #19249
Joined: Apr 13 2011
Location: Sydney
So.... 2 years down the track.... has anyone tried getting a short shifter to work yet?
f411   
Mon May 26 2014, 10:06am
Member No: #18727
Joined: Mar 13 2011
Location: Brazil
Hi folks,

I understand this topic is old and rusty, but I think I might have something interesting to share... I disassembled the C4's battery support plate so I could take a closer look at how the cable operated BE4 gear selection works...





On the image below, only the marked parts matter to us, as they are responsible for "engaging" gears.



Essentially, I believe all we have to do in order to get shorter shifts is to add an extension between the existing pivot and the plastic rod (marked as orange).

Here's a [%*^#@!] hand drawing I did on iPad to illustrate an "upper view" of the ideia, first as it is and then with the short shift in place. On the top of the picture is the gear engaging cable, then we have the pivot mounted on the BE4 bell housing (with its "center axis" on pink) and on the bottom there's the gear engagement "hook" (or whatever it's called in English — it's that black thing on the right side of photos). On violet you have possible gear positions based on how the cable is moved by the gear stick inside the car.





What do you guys think? The actual shape of the extension part (I mean, the short/quick shift itself) could be very similar to the ones made by Griffith for 206 GTI. I don't know what would be the ideal lenght to the short shift, but I plan on getting "prototypes" built soon, maybe 3 different lenghts and then test which one feels better...

Cheers,

Filipe

f411   
Wed May 28 2014, 02:49pm
Member No: #18727
Joined: Mar 13 2011
Location: Brazil
Well I emailed a detailed explanation to Griffith Eng. but so far they don't seem to have interest on making this specific quickshift or even selling me the regular one so that I could test on my own risk.

According to them:

wrote ...
Dear Sir

In general, cable systems do not take kindly to extending the bell crank

as cables work within the sleeve and the sleeve is captive as opposed to rods which are only end captive

as we stated we have not looked at this model and I'm confident a solution could be designed

however at present we have no plans to look further at this model

Regards


Anyways, I still believe that my idea would work as quick shift...
CamM   
Thu May 29 2014, 12:40am

Member No: #19249
Joined: Apr 13 2011
Location: Sydney
Unfortunately, I don't think there's much chance of getting a short-shifter happening given it's not happened in the past 10 years.

Thanks for putting some thought into it though and for attempting to make something happen. If you persist with the idea, make sure to keep us posted on your progress.
f411   
Tue Jul 14 2015, 09:09pm
Member No: #18727
Joined: Mar 13 2011
Location: Brazil
Hello,

Just to remove some dust, if anyone still cares, MTech, a company based on Netherlands, released today a short shifter suitable for the C4 2.0 petrol. Essentially, it's designed for every car equipped with BE4 cable-operated gearboxes and EW10 engines, so it fits the Peugeot 206 RC / GTI as well. They claim it reduces gear throw at 35%, and it looks very well built.

Here's the link: - Click Here -

They also have short shifters for the following gearboxes: MCM (THP), MA5 (EP6 and EC5 engines), and BE4 for 1.6L engines (it's another kit, yellow, not like the 2.0 red one).

Regards
tony_82   
Wed Jul 15 2015, 01:24am
Member No: #40824
Joined: Jun 05 2015
Location: Durham
Looking at the installation instructions for the 1.6 HDI model, would I be right in thinking that they've done it on the new shape C4? And if so, is there any difference between the Mk1 set up and the newer set up?

Link here, instructions can be found at the bottom.
- Click Here -


wozza   
Wed Jul 15 2015, 07:07am

Member No: #2
Joined: Aug 12 2006
Location: Manchester
If I still had my C4 I would be ordering one of these now.

The shifter I have on my Monaro was one of best modifications I have ever done on a car. If this is half as good it is well worth picking up.
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